I also remember when punk hit Cardiff that was a huge thing to get into. The top rank on Queen Street was where all the bands used to play. There was also the Pavilion in Sophia Gardens and hanging out in Grassroots. All I remember about grassroots is that you walked in and it was just a coffee bar where you could get a cheap cup of coffee. It was just a hang out place. There was a little stage at the end where you could watch smaller bands. Spiller's records, that was another place to hang out. There was also a caf� called Merits in the Royal Arcade I think about 20 of us would go in there and buy on cup of coffee then hang out for the day.